Curse

VinnyRidira · Nov 26, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

I started a pre searing gopher named "Tapestry Shreds" to get tapestry shreds for my old Prophecy character. These are not customised so at least that works. But having deleted Zho's book and then wanting another is quite tragic because it was not made clear to avoid deleting this item. My sympathies with the OP.

elk00k · Feb 10, 2008, 07:43 AM // 07:43

Zho's journal had dropped for the 3 characters I used to fight the tournament. It seemed like it was dropping like flies. Like the OP I deleted the journal not realizing it wouldn't drop again, or that I would need it to get the NPCs to speak to my character.

What a bummer.

CLS · Feb 13, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

My main char has his, got it and the black moa ranger pet at the same time just because.
They could just make it a non repeatable quest to do.

Cyn Blackraven · Feb 13, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

I'm not sure how it would be changed but they should make it so you can get the journal again. I haven't gotten it with my ranger. I've fought Zho and won. Fought Zho and lost. still no book. and i know i haven't accidentally deleted it. I've never had a copy of that book in my inventory. They should just add Zho to an outpost somewhere where you talk to her and she gives you the book. Still have everything else in the quest/acquisition of mini-pet the same, just add a customized book to your inventory for talking to her. and you cant have more than one in your inventory. I really wanted to do this quest/treasure hunt but I can't because I never got a book.

EDIT* Nevermind, it seems that you only get the book from beating her, and i guess i havn't beaten her yet. What I read before was wrong. It said that you just had to fight her, win or lose, and she would give you the book.

I still think they should change it though. Makes it unfair for people who don't know what to do with it. And I think it's stupid that you have to read something online to progress in the game.

Shakti · Feb 13, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by Cyn Blackraven

I'm not sure how it would be changed but they should make it so you can get the journal again. I haven't gotten it with my ranger. I've fought Zho and won. Fought Zho and lost. still no book. and i know i haven't accidentally deleted it. I've never had a copy of that book in my inventory. They should just add Zho to an outpost somewhere where you talk to her and she gives you the book. Still have everything else in the quest/acquisition of mini-pet the same, just add a customized book to your inventory for talking to her. and you cant have more than one in your inventory. I really wanted to do this quest/treasure hunt but I can't because I never got a book.

EDIT* Nevermind, it seems that you only get the book from beating her, and i guess i havn't beaten her yet. What I read before was wrong. It said that you just had to fight her, win or lose, and she would give you the book.

I still think they should change it though. Makes it unfair for people who don't know what to do with it. And I think it's stupid that you have to read something online to progress in the game.

They limited the books to 1 per char to keep people from farming it to sell the mini I think. To complete the cycle you must have access to all 3 campaigns and EOTN. Not every player does, so not every player can get the mini. That means those ppl must buy it if they really want it. As we've seen many times, ppl that can will charge whatever they can get away with until it's farmed into the ground. The theory here was to prevent that. While I do think it'd be nice if you could get accidentally deleted books replaced, that would undoubtedly get abused by ppl looking to farm the bird.

The book itself tells you what to do. Yeah it's vague .. but that's half the fun. The reason wiki has a how-to now is ppl figured it out

Personally, I loved the scavenger hunt mystery aspect of it, wish they'd do more like that.

Snow Bunny · Feb 13, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Lord Feathers

I already Have a Black Moa chick which I have gotten with my ranger. I also have no intention of starting another character and going everywhere I need to do to collect the things I need and be in the areas I need to be in. The other pet was intended as a gift and not for farming / selling. I can make more gold farming then I could obtaining this mini-pet.

I do like the idea of them allowing Zho to perhaps drop another book yet if that character has not gotten the mini-pet yet and it's understandable to have restrictions of some sort so that the mini remains some what unique. My point was what happens to the gamer who doesn't realize they actually need this book ? Myself I'm aware of Wikki and other sites and should have looked into the matter but what happens to the person who thinks it's strictly just for clues or deletes the book like I did before talking with Katherine ?

/sigh

You already have one.

Just buy another one or something as a gift. It'd be a lot easier than complaining to the developers about a problem you created

Musei Karasu · Feb 13, 2008, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by eudas

however, players would still try to pull ridiculous shenanigans by getting their friends to hold their journal(s), or putting them on alt accounts, so they'd still try to cheat the system. because if it's possible, players are going to be jackasses and do it. So the quest probably has to be as it is if you want the black moa chick to be unique at all.

Customized items can no longer be put into the trade window. This suggestion would work now.

DarkGanni · Feb 14, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

Customized items can no longer be put into the trade window. This suggestion would work now.

Sorry but this will never happen, personally I have 2 accounts 1 which I play and another for storage, sometimes I store old armors on account 2, your idea would block me from doing this. Not gonna happen.

HawkofStorms · Feb 14, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

I could understand if when Zho's Journal first came out and nobody understood how it worked, but now all the info appears on the wiki.

vixro · Feb 14, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

I ran into the same problem and am unable to get a moa chick either. I reporetd this as a bug but the thread got closed in the forum. I got the book very early, before the quest was even created. It was taking up space in my inventory so I tossed it. Later on when the quest came about (or was found out), I went back to the bison tourny to get another book since I had never turned in my old one for an incubator. Lo' and behold, I am unable to achieve another book to start the quest. Looks like we just got screwed bud.

quickmonty · Feb 15, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

I would like to see some way for those that threw the journal away (not knowing at the time that it would have a use) to be able to get it again. I'm sure ANet's logs would show that, and not that someone was trying to take advantage.

SharonC · Feb 15, 2008, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Actually, the easiest way to fix this would be to make it that Katherine would only create an incubator for you one time, and that Zho would give you another book if you did not have one in inventory when you beat her in the tourney. That way people who do not read the wiki would still be able to get the mini black moa chick once they learned about it, even if they had trashed the book.

Sjeng · Feb 15, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

I think Zho should just hand you a new customized copy if you have none in your inventory. Easily implemented I think. You could instead have Katherine only craft you an incubator ONCE per character. problem solved. Nobody's gonna delete his/her incubator unless they're really stupid. You paid 5k plus rare materials for it, and stashed the ingredients in it, so you know you don't want to delete it. You need it to get the chick. The book is another story.

It's now just taking up another free slot in my already too cramped inventory on each of my characters, untill I manage to get the incubator kit from Katharine.
After I get my chicks, I'm certainly deleting all the books for more space, even though I like the book and the story within. (I might keep just one).

edit: oops SharonC beat me to it ^^

vixro · Feb 15, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

Sadly, I put up a suggestion for this in the suggestion forums and it was locked for "working as intended".

HawkofStorms · Feb 15, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by vixro

Sadly, I put up a suggestion for this in the suggestion forums and it was locked for "working as intended".

Sounds like you put it in the "bug section" which is where threads are closed for that.